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5th May 2017, 21:33 |
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nah lo sendiri kagak tau dimana miss nya coba lo sebutkan miss nya dimana? lo ga bisa lo cuma menyalahkan, tapi lo sendiri tidak tau yg benarnya seperti apa. lo kayak anak kecil yg lagi main nuduh orang salah, orang lain curang tapi lo ga tau main yg benernya kayak apa, akhirnya lo cuma bisa nuduh nuduh saja, buat fitnah hmmmm...setelah dipikir pikir, ternyata fitnah dan menuduh salah itu sudah jadi hobby lo |
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5th May 2017, 21:36 |
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lo sendiri kagak bisa kasi bukti kehidupan orang Indonesia zaman dulu kayak apa, lo ga pernah lihat langsung, lo cuma baca teori doang, kagak pernah hadir disana. Bisa saja lo salah memahami teori tentang manusia zaman dulu karena lo ga pernah hadir disana.
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5th May 2017, 21:40 |
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padahal lo cuma meyakini teori, dan lo baca dari teori yg belum tentu benar dan belum tentu pasti benar, karena lo cuma ikut ikutan teori doang, lo kagak pernah hadir bersama mereka yg punya teori. |
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5th May 2017, 23:32 |
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tau maunya tuhan manusia pengen jujur... ya defaultnya semua manusia ingin kebaikan (dikehendaki/dimauain.. tuhan ingin baik)...salah satu jalan kebaikan ato terbukanya pengetahuan kan jujur...coba aja orang nggak jujur dari ngasih data ato jualan...lu mau sekeliling lu nggak jujur...kebolehan tidak jujur itu ada uzurnya misal terancam kematian...bahkan dalam bercanda/nggak penting pun sbenere dilarang kok tidak jujur...walopun kesalahnnya tentu tidak seberat jujur dalam maslah pokok...seperti jualan...sumpah...etc... kalo masalah miss dalam pesan tuhan ya kagak ada dari tuhan ke nabinya sebab yang tuhan ingin yang tersampai ya hal tsb...ini kalo ngikut alur tuhan angkat seorang nabi/penyampai lho...minimal pernah tersampai/ terucap oleh nabi... masalahnya bukan di situ...masalah nya sbenranya ya tadi... memang tuhan maunya itu..(konten kitab suci)...bisakah manusia bukan nabi membenarkan apa kata orang yang mengaku nabi...kalo dalam siroh / sejarah nabi yang bisa membenarkan apa yang diamanatkan nabi tanpa pikir panjang itu ...abu bakar ... krn kejujuran yang bersangkutan pribadi...krn beliau kenal dekat... lha terus kita yang jauh dari nabi gimana...? panjaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang...sederhananya kalo lu taunya tuhan tiap saat... kalo clue dalam kitab suci ada beberapa...misal lukman hakim bukan seorang nabi... namun bisa mengerti kebenaran dan perintah tuhan...kalo masuk dalam al qur an sebagai orang baik ya berarti jadi panutan ... lukman hakim bisa kok kita tidak... kalo nabi bisa kok kita tidak ya wajar dia dipilih tuhan kita ada alasan.... intinya kan agama kan berkutat masalah tuhan...kalo lu bisa cuma tuhan dalam pikiran lu..dikit dikit tuhan...dikit dikit tuhan...lu akan kenal temen temen seperjuangan lu...begitu... mungkin mirip begini kalo dimate matik...coba lu otak atik angka 1 - 100...bikin rumus...kalu ketemu rumus...paling udah ada yang bikin...di buku pelajaran udah ada...ntar lu akan bilang pinter juga tu orang kek aye... bisa nemuin rumus .... |
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...obrolan kita dimeja makan... |
5th May 2017, 23:46 |
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memang y ... itu tuhan ...?? harusnya nya kan doanya gini... ya tuhan yang sesungguhnya...benarkah y itu tuhan... kalo segala sesuatu tergantung padanya ltu jelas merujuk ke tuhan... biar kaum k ...pada ikut nimbrung... itu golongane ukun...moksa ...iban...cs mana ya...kok belum komentar.... |
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...obrolan kita dimeja makan... |
12th May 2017, 22:49 |
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bahkan percaya Tahayul semacam Dewi Sri dewi Padi atau Nyi Roro kidul adalah untuk hukum tertinggi dibeberapa daerah setempat, sample karena patuhnya pada Nyi Roro Kidul hingga detik ini ada larangan berpakaian warna hijau dipesisir laut Selatan. |
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22nd June 2017, 15:23 |
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Dia menulis: We observe Jewish rituals, we study Jewish teachings, we come to services. Some of us answer this call by sheltering the homeless, by marching to end genocide around the world, by speaking out for social justice. Some of us experience Shema Yisrael by eating a pastrami sandwich at the local deli or a falafel in Jerusalem, or going to the Jewish film festival, or belonging to a Jewish organization. For many of us, the religious and cultural stuff, weâÂÂve got down. But sometimes we stumble on the rest . . .the spiritual. So, we label ourselves as "religious but not spiritual". Perhaps we know how to recite all the appropriate prayers but are not comfortable talking to God â or listening for the answers. We are the ones gung ho to complete a mitzvah project, but don't realize that stopping and resting for Shabbat can be an even deeper way of finding meaning. Religious but not spiritual people are the ones who insist that the way it has always been done is the way it should always be done, but don't really know why. The critics say that it is just this kind of religious activity without spirituality that leaves us feeling dry and unfulfilled. In Jewish terms we say it is kevah without kavanah (form without intention) or as the kabbalists described it: A beautiful but empty goblet. And, it is the empty vessel that so many go elsewhere to fill. Of course then there is their counterpart, their foil â those who are spiritual but not religious. These folks connect with the second part of JudaismâÂÂs central statement: Adonai Eloheinu / God is our God. I cannot begin to tell you how many times I hear as a precursor to a meeting with a bar mitzvah family, or bride and groom, or grieving family: âÂÂWeâÂÂre spiritual, but not religious.â I often want to shake the person and say, âÂÂwhat does that mean? You meditate but donâÂÂt gesticulate? You light candles every day of the week to create a spiritual ambiance but never on Friday evening? You speak to those who are dead but not to those who are living? What does it mean?â IâÂÂve been around long enough to know what is intended by this disclaimer. Self-ascribed âÂÂSpiritual but not Religiousâ people believe that God is more easily accessible in the forest than in the pew. They feel more comfortable browsing the bookstore shelves on new age or Eastern thought than davening from our prayer book. They typically would rather pick and choose the best of different traditions than be bound by what they label as dogma. Or perhaps, they just pass around dog-eared copies of Eat, Pray, Love. âÂÂSpiritual but not religiousâ get the Adonai Eloheinu / God is our God, but the first part, the religious imperative to âÂÂListen Israelâ â that gets missed. Some of todayâÂÂs leaders have been outright critical of the âÂÂspiritual but not religiousâÂÂ. Rabbi David Wolpe of Sinai Temple writes, âÂÂ. . .all too often âÂÂspiritualâ asks nothing of us â it is the narcissism of non-involvement. . . spirituality allows one to feel good about oneself.âÂÂ1 Is it narcissism that leads some to define themselves as âÂÂSpiritual but not Religious?â Perhaps for some itâÂÂs a matter of ego. Or maybe embarrassment over what it âÂÂlooksâ like to be a âÂÂreligiousâ Jew â black hat, kippah, tzitzit, wig. It looks outmoded and out of touch. Maybe it seems fanatical. Maybe, as some suggest, it is an issue of commitment. âÂÂIf IâÂÂm religious I have to do all these things â holidays, rituals, mitzvot . . .â Maybe it is a discomfort about not âÂÂknowing enoughâ â whatever we self-define as âÂÂenoughâÂÂ. Or, maybe the âÂÂSpiritual but not religiousâ had a bad experience way back when with a synagogue. Perhaps it is guilt: We are not living up to the standards that we feel we should live up to so we just abandon it all together. ItâÂÂs kind of like slipping a bit on a diet and then deciding that since I already had a bite of the cake, I might as well eat the whole slice, plus ice cream on top. Whatever the cause, I believe that spirituality needs religion to keep it rooted â to keep it connected. As you have heard me teach before, âÂÂreligionâ from the Latin âÂÂre-ligareâ means to re-connect, just as a ligament connects our body parts, religion reconnects us to our source, to our community, to ourselves. Religion is how we give structure to our beliefs, how we pass it on to our children, and how we express ourselves to the universe. It is religion that has the social power to heal and to make whole. And . . . religion needs spirituality, because it is the spiritual which gives us the sense of awe, which gives our practice meaning, which truly fills our cup. It seems these days that more and more we are dividing the world into the religious, the spiritual, and the none-of-the-above. |
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26th November 2018, 00:54 |
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Orang yang mengaku ber-Tuhan tapi tidak beragama adalah orang yang "bingung".
Bagaimana bisa mengenal ajaran dan sabda-Nya jika tidak melalui agama? Memangnya orang itu menerima secara langsung mandat dari Tuhan untuk merumuskan ajaran-Nya? |
26th November 2018, 08:21 |
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Apa gada akternatif harus lewat agama?
Bisa jadi awalnya lewat agama... Agama dalam arti yg dah jadi semodel organisasi... yg umumnya, biasanya isinya diwarnai gengsi dan materi... sehingga seringkali.. menyimpang dari tupoksinya yg haqiqiyyah bila seumumnya berawal dari keluarga... sejak kapan Tuhan.. di nol kan? Turun temurun, waris mewariskan... ada yg diaspora diantaranya.. menjadi tamu dinegrinya sendiri |
29th November 2018, 17:17 |
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Ada statement begini.....
bila pada siapa aja ditanyakan..... Siapa yg menciptakan.... langit dan bumi beserta isinya....? Maka.... Akan mendapatkan jawaban pasti.... Allah.... sbg Khalik... ada jawaban lain? Sebentar2.... Begini... maksudnya...? mau membantah...? |
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